buying a year in advance is never ever a good idea, servers go down all the time.

If you want to go month by month, contact /u/stokedcrf, he will be able to get you IPGuys for $8.5 a month

Hi, Thanks for your reply,How long Have expressiptv been going for, I thought they were a trusted server. Also how long has IPGUYs been going for. I also thought they were a trusted reliable iptv source. I was also surprised to see a guy selling Expressiptv on ebay. He has 166 positive feedback and he is at %100 with no bad feedback. Is it safe to order from Ebay,I thoght it was unsafe to use paypal to pay,since I've heard they leak the information to where you don't want it to go to. What are the facts on this. Thanks

Hi, Thanks for the reply. It's no so much the saving of $20.00 ,so much as would.t there be a lot more chance of being detected with paying 12 times per year .as compared to just once or twice a year. Also can you confirm if paypal is bad to use. because I have heard they leak the information to you know who if your ordering things like this. I've always heard using acredit card was way safer because they didn.t do this. What is every ones experience with this.

Ok,Thanks for the updates. I just want to be safe for both of us. I,ve heard good things about you stokedcrf. It sounds like you are a very honest seller,and if one server goes down for awhile,you would switch a person over to another working server till the other one came back up ,and then switch back when the server came back up. Is this the case. I am experimenting with IPTV express right now and it barely freezes at all. This is what I am after.ROck solid,freeze free stability. The picture quality to me is pretty good,but the guide never seems to get improved on. This is why I was thinking about switching to ipguys ,since I heard there was no freezing at all on any of the channels.Is this the case,But someone said you lose a little picture quality. I would rather lose a little picture quality,and have no freezing or buffering ,and rock solid stability. I may have not been on these forumsfor long but have been in it when it was iks.Thanks

Hi, Sorry for the super late reply. I always half to go out at 4pm,and don't get back in till now. The guy that sells on Ebay ,and claims to be honest .Obviously ,after talking to you guys, is not honest at all. He said if one service went down he would switch me over to another service till the other one was back up.I pretty much figured he was lying,but wanted 100% confirmation on this. Since unless he controlled the servers like you guys say.That would be impossible to do. It clearly shows how shady this can get..As for what device .It is the Mag 254 box. I have been watching Express for a month now,and I like the picture quality it has. It is good enough for me.After using NFPS. Express is very stable to me . Meaning the channels work with no freezing at all,and only minimal blip from time to time with a little buffering which corrects itself within 5 seconds or so.Also I like other than that 2 week scare. It is always up.I also really only want the U.s dish channels like I used to watch when it was just IKS receivers doing the job. What always kept me coming back to NFPS was that they had all the dish channels,and had them in the exact order they came originally in the IKS receiver. For example. Channels started at 105 which is usa network,tvland 106,investigation discovery being channel 192. The only other service that I see that has the channel list that has all the dish channels,and has them numbered properly like the original dish receiver is Vcarb, But after reading here that is suicide to sign up with them. The only other country I am interested in is the country that supports btsports 1 and 2 for the UFC ppv fights and a ppv channel that would show the ufc ppv,so if the btsports channel is acting up ,you could watch it on that ppv channel hopefully,and the just box nation ,and wwe channel. I don't need all the other channels or all those movie channels. I just want a server that has the dish channels in the order they originally come in,So you can just punch in the channel number for the dish channel and be watching. If NFPS could get their server stable with no freezing,I would still be there,but they always say they are fixing it to stop the freezing,and constant buffering and it never gets fixed. Simply put,I will be a lifelong subscriber to the service that doesn't freeze and buffer with the proper dish channels labeled properly like dish and NFPS has them with UFC and WWE. When I look at Vcarb.They have the exact order of dish channels I'm looking for but again.You all are aware of vcarb. Vcarb equals bad customer service NFPS equals constant freezing. Everybody else doesn't have all the dish channels ,and there jumbled everywhere with totally different number listing. A definite rock and a hard place. Thanks to all of you who took the time to read this super long post.