For those of you who bought VaderStreams just for HBO; Don't. It's completely fucking trash for HBO. Constantly buffering on a 120MBps wired connection when every other channel is fine.

by MegaScizzor
saltynarwhal0

I'll go even further. IPTV isn't for you. Just subscribe to HBO Now or your local cable. No matter what service you have, you will never have it exactly perfect. Now as much as I pay for cable, I expect to be reliable. IPTV is a hobby not meant to replace my cable. There are other alternatives besides that to do cord cutting with. If you are going to complain, at least do the research, lower your expectations, and not expect this to rival your cable company. Sorry, but that is the truth.

Iptv4life

Vaders is over estimated, over hyped and over priced if you need just 2 connections. People flock to these Servers that have 3+ connections and a gazillion channels.

What do you expect? Seriously? Much better options out there.

I am watching Westworld now on HBO Canada and HBO US in HD, Good quality, No buffering or freezing on a 5Mb connection, hardwired. :) Canada-US-Sports, that's all I need. Not all channels are HD but then again, if you need everything(a gazillion) in HD or 4K for a few bucks a month them you will be forever disappointed.

manosteel9423

Seriously?

Let me ask...how long have you been a subscriber of Vader? When did the buffering start? How long has it been going on? Did you contact somebody (ya know, maybe your reseller) to see if they could get it fixed? Vader has an official Telegram group that you can join and tell them of any problems and they usually can fix them in real time...did you know that?

Or...did you just sign up today and decide to have a hissy-fit when your precious channel didn't work properly the first time you tried it?

asshatlol

Why would someone get Vader just for HBO? LOL.

topgrinder

Just watched west world on Vader’s hbo. Stream didn’t buffer at all and went well.

Some days it buffers to unwatchable levels. I notice certain channels work better than others. Like showtime is always choppy for me while Fox News is usually rock solid.

Hayak

Other than for sports, I don't understand why anyone does most of their live streaming.

chaos36

I've never had all issue with HBO on Vaders. Granted, I only watch boxing on there, but rarely have any buffering. And if I do, it is once for a few seconds.

CraigMatthews

IMO, kind of stupid to pay money to shady illegal businesses for one channel that you can get legally and reliably and functional on every device for literally the same price.

nxgenguy

Question I was told by my reseller that the Vader Streams APK has a built in VPN. Does anyone know this to be true?!

nxgenguy

I didn't think so either

nxgenguy

Thank you. I figure he was lying to me. I wanted to make sure by asking here.

fivestarsmovies

Just a few thoughts from a reseller (not Vader but another service). I have used Vader as I wanted to resell it in Europe mainly UK. I was blown away with the number of channels and VOD available. I was shocked at the quality and the speed at which the channels were loading (shocked as in very impressed). Remember I don't resell Vader but I do resell other services. I am based in the UK also so my market is slightly different in terms of needs/demands.

Number of Channels

First I do not believe that the way IPTV wholesalers package their channels is efficient enough and they are using far more resources to deliver there services than is required. Nobody , and I mean NOBODY watches 20000 or 2000 channels so why sell it like that? I am trying to get my source to let me create and sell my only style bouquets but they are telling me it's not possible at the moment.

Why not let people pick and mix so they get what they want rather than sell thousands of channels? I don't speak Pakistani or Hindu so I only want a selection of english channels. Lets say, why don't you just sell UK english channels and Hindu channel as a bolt on or Visa Versa? Let the customer choose what they want. The main legal companies sell bundles and bolt-ons why can't the Vaders of this world (IPTV World) do the same. Seperate the sports channels and sell them seperately or as bolt-ons. UK sports and US sports, football/soccer only packages with US, UK, EUROPE AND South American soccer/football only packages etc. I am sure you guys get my drift. That is where I am heading with my service. I noticed on ebay.co.uk that quite a few guys are targeting this area as well focusing on UK channels or English channels only and are not selling more that 250 channels max.

Number of Connections

Sorry, sorry, sorry, but three or five connection per subscription is crazy, silly and economically insane, I don't care how many servers you have. That is a crazy monopoly tactics, two connections max, personally I think one is enough. Additional channels can be either full or discounted (say 30% off) but never free. I don't care what Vaders says this madness will have to stop or soon there will be some very unhappy subscribers as the service will disappear. Only making money on 1 in 5 connections?? Luney, total barmey!!!

Reliability

I know the arena is hot and the authorities are fighting hard against this level of IPTV service, however, it will never die. Suppliers will start and fail but there will always be a couple that keep going. This is because to stop this they would have to stop the internet, I know companies that were big in Europe and everyone thought they were a gonna but instead they regrouped and change strategy and still going strong, something Vader will end up doing in order to weather out the storm long term.

Why can't you have a 12 months relaible subscription? There is no reason why you cannot, the wholesaler just needs the correct type of resellers to do quality selling and not cheap and hopeful selling. Have a look at the UK sites, Gumtree, Ebay etc. How can you sell 12 moths subscription for £12? CRAZY!! You pay peanuts you get monkeys (poor service that is here today and gone very soon) I want to see if these services are aropund in 12 -24 months. If resellers do a good job the wholesalers can focus on providing a quality service as the income will be there to sustain the current service and have a backup just in case the authorities get hold of the live one. This should mean a maximum of 24hrs downtime at worst. Could Vader do this?

One subscriber asked how can I provide a guarantee, I told him it's not even based on any Paypal protection. I provide it because I am running a business with a model that has proven itself. I don't charge £3 for a months sub. or £10 for three months like the others. I have a model that works, read my guarantee and the terms I said, it is all realistic. He wanted to know why is my service £125 per year I said because I provide a full year. You might now be thinking how can this be and I am telling you it is possible just sit back and think about the business model you have and provide a service that is not the run of the mill, cheap and hopeful.

EVERYBODY is setting up now as well, every man and his dog is going independent. The amount of people that are now selling cheap subs because they own their own servers. eg. https://www.gumtree.com/p/tv-reception-set-top-boxes/iptv-uks-best-all-devices-free-3-day-trial/1304441337 this is popping up a lot in the UK. This means resellers like myself are finding it tough online so I have to go local. To be honest Wholesalers and Resellers are there own worst enemy. The stream owners are also taking too much risks opening up to so many individuals whom I wonder if they understand the basics of security and stealth operations.

Quality

This is the part that everybody expects the best and sometimes it falls short, well for anybody new to or thinking of using IPTV, listen up.

The delivery process is in stages and no one can guarantee HD of FHD quality all the time, first remember the original stream from the ligit broadcaster, this has to be captured and then sent to you, which means there is going to be lost quality and delivery delay. SIMPLE . Servers can be anywhere in the world this affects speed and infrastructure (cables, connections, noise on cables, end user equipments, VPNs etc.) all affects speed and quality. How many times do you see resellers just focusing on selling you a code/URL? Do they mention VPNs or quality IPTV boxes that can actually handle the quality streams the end clients are expecting to receive? No, they don't, most just want to sell £3 (cheap) streams. Vader delivers exceptional quality matching all others that I have seen bar none, I hope they focus more on quality and leave the industry monopoly game alone. Unless Vader control the stream origin they cannot control the stream quality or reliability, and that goes for all IPTV wholesaler period.

Finally

IPTV is not for everyone, there are those who see this level of the IPTV platform and the service as for scums by scums. Their are those that see it as the service by liberators for liberators, there is ithe undecided, the confused and well, the useless (want it but cannot be bothered). Vader and several other providers are running a massive risk to bring the masses something affordable so lets encourage and support them. Please lets not destroy the platform with cheap and cheerful/hopeful security loopholes, lets keep the platform respectful and valuable.

I strongly recommend visiting Torrent Freak site and subscribe to their mailing list, you will get an idea of what is going on in the IPTV world. Several service take downs and law suits etc. very good website for those who want to dig deeper.

https://torrentfreak.com/

https://torrentfreak.com/roku-claims-success-in-war-against-piracy-180626/

https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-sellers-sign-abstention-agreement-under-pressure-from-brein-180528/

https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-service-gave-customer-details-to-premier-league-but-whats-the-risk-180515/

https://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-pirate-iptv-linker-to-shut-down-or-face-penalties-up-to-e1-25m-180911/

https://torrentfreak.com/further-details-emerge-on-huge-iptv-raids-in-europe-180117/

Have a nice one!

kikinjohr

Faders sux big time lately

mikil456

I agree VADERS SUCKS BIGTIME! Ive been in the iptv game now for five years! Had this service for a few months now and very very unstable.Whomever runs this ervice doesnt give a shit about upkeeping anything. Time people started to STOP buying subs to these idiots. IPGUYS still is a solid serive for those seeking uptime tv that actually works. ALL these iptv services need to keep their guides (EPGs) upto date but they do not which royally sucks Good Luck All and DONT BUY Vaders and waste your mind.

f3rr311

Ive been using getdark.org

They have like 600 channels and the setup guide is on Twitter they also respond to PM's in a very timely manner

@darkiptv on Twitter

They have a trial run option too