Vader's Ripping everyone off

by inkedNerdalert

FYI

Vader's made a false claim that they were raided due to a former employee rating them out to the FEDs.

They took payment from customers and resellers, asked you not to request refunds, and re branded the service to sell again. Strictly out of greed.

Spread the truth around and don't be fooled by them again.

Flamesilver_0

Buys / Sells Illegal TV Services

Gets Scammed

*Shocked Pikachu*

Huerrbuzz

Someone sounds bitter, just relax it's illegal service and costs like $15. This happens and even if they did rip everyone off are you surprised that someone who rips off satellite and cable companies ripped you off 😂😂😂😂😂. Move on man.

mickeyj26

Only thing i have ever learned when it comes to services like these, is pay month to month and if it shuts down at most you can look into getting money back from credit card companies. They usually will side with you.

harpdogg1

Greed is what iptv is all about. every customer, reseller, panel owner all are into iptv because of greed. If you expect to not get ripped off once in a while then you live in a fantasy world.

The only way to fight back against the real ripoffs is in posts like this. Every user saves hundreds of dollars a month. You have already made your money back.

If Vader has re-branded then get the info and post it. We are a community and no one is going to help us but us

Kevin_28_

Just dont be a retard and buy a 1 year sub. Always do monthly

PhillyIdol

Just to note: I'm NOT stating this to be definitive in ANY way, but just cuz I'm a huge nerd, did some research and found this if anyone cares (can take it as you see fit)...

Have a few domain lookup tools/sites I use as an IT admin, so did a lookup with each site, and "looks" like ' vaders.com ' was the actual direct site, and ' vaderstreams.com ' was a 'resellers' site, based on the below...

  • The 'vaders' site was hosted thru NAMECHEAP INC registrar w WhoisGuard generic nameservers (registrant country as Panama)
  • The 'vaderstreams' site is hosted thru GoDaddy using CloudFlare NS's (registrant country as US)
  • 'vaderstreams' is now redirecting to a Beast sales site also thru GoDaddy using CloudFlare NS's (registrant country as CAN)

..., so based on that (again NO proof), it looks like a reseller who lost their revenue stream thru Vaders and switched to Beast.

The shady part is that there are posts "stating" (again, I have NO proof) that this reseller ( IF a reseller) was still selling pkg's right up to the second before Vaders shut down, so it seems to be a reseller with a 'my provider is going down, so gonna get as much $$ as I can before they go under' business attitude.

Again, I have/offer NO proof either way, just a nerd that was curious

Edit: P.S. I do understand that a provider would/could have more than one site from dif hosting to sell from. This was just what it "seemed" with what I found

ES1123

If you don’t have proof why are you posting?

OldMcGroin

What have they rebranded as?

RockIslander2018

Their domain name is in the transfer stage so keep a watch on who it gets transferred to and maybe some info will come to light.

Zuluuk1

I honestly don't think they would be so stupid to burn off a large customer base, reputation goes a long way. Something must have happen... I don't know where you got the information that they re branded. Would you re brand to something else and start from scratch with 0 customer when you have a stable sub of 20k+ customers? They made good money, no one is stupid enough to just throw it all away.

RichAndCompelling

Proof? Not that I don’t believe you, because it sounds very plausible?

manosteel9423

Here’s the problem I have with all this “Vader is scamming and rebranding” stuff. Vader is the only service I have ever seen to spend what had to be a fortune to move away from Xtreamcodes and develop their own infrastructure. If, and this is a big if imo, they decided to take a runner and rebrand, there is no way they would abandon their back end they sunk all that money into.

If they keep their unique back end, it would be ridiculously easy to figure out that the new, rebranded, service is, in fact, Vader.

frodiddy123

I dont get why people like you dont get it through there head that what we are doing is illegal.. And if you were smart what happend to set tv you should have learned your lesson then.. buying month to month is the smartest thing you can do.. dont complain when the shit goes down, thats just part of the risk invovled.. and at the end of the day , did you really loose a shit load of money?? the only people that got hit are the resellers, and even those guys know the risk invovled..

Tamar1nd

So whats new? Good old recipe, rinse, repeat.

ventura_21

The link you posted was a reseller, not the official link. Of course they would rebrand

rangermetz241

Ace did this too I believe.

Fujitsubo

Complaining about being ripped off by an illegal IPTV service provider is the same as bitching about your drug dealer giving you 2 rocks of crack when you paid for 3

iammyusername

Please share their new service. I’d rather resub for match center than spend the time trying to find the right MLB/NBA channels

Lambgoat_Lurk

...so now who should i use?

droid3000

I have simple question? Is impossible to get one that works well? I had gearstv about 2 years ago and that was most stable service I had until it shut down. I've been through like 6 different ones since then and none of them a remotely close to be being reliable

AlexterWeb

They don't need to rebrand. They are already involved with those iptv services where the majority of users is being pushed.

Ohmybahgosh

Look, I'll eat crow, but I'm getting tired of these conspiracy theories with zero evidence.

Vader had to be making 1-2 million a month, despite people complaining about buffering issues. People were still constantly signing up, and the chat groups kept growing and growing.

People keep saying they took money and ran, yet they would of kept making a shit ton of money.

Not to mention, I'd say 90% of their subs came in thru a reseller, who was getting, I'm guessing, at least 30% of the subscribers payment.

This makes absolutely no financial sense to turn down millions a month, when staying open another year would provide them an additional $12-25M in sales.

So, if someone can clear this up with actual proof, I'll grab a pitch fork.. But, until then, move on. Have people forgotten they're playing around in a illegal / gray legal arena?

stoshio

I just won my paypal case and received a refund from vaders.

I will never pay for more than a month ahead ever again.

If you, like me, paid up in advance using paypal, file a case and get a refund.

jay261170m

www.phuketiptv.com try tht as well,even has the aussie tv and sports available

inkedNerdalert

Here you go. Click the link. Doesn't say Vaders anymore. Rebranded thieves.

Https://vaderstreams.com