A good portion of IPTV users are benefiting from international channels that cannot be obtained legally where they live.

I can pay about $100/m for a selection of North American channels and maybe 15 Indian channels.

India has more than 15 channels obviously. With IPTV I get 240 channels straight from India along with the North American variant, if it exists.

People who use it for sports are just trying to get something for cheap. (To be fair, the sports franchises are greedy as fuck.)

But a good percentage of users have it because they like watching channels which are otherwise impossible to legally obtain.

YTTV will eventually be as high as cable. You might as well go back to cable or satellite. Good luck!

I wish I could do the same, however you guys in the US have it good with lots of options. Here in Canada there isn’t much.

To answer your question "How and why would anyone keep paying for shitty IPTV"? To watch any UFC,Boxing, NFL Game anytime for about 15 bucks a month is why I do it

Nice, but to be honest with you 90% of people on IPTV are here because we can’t get the shows/sports we want in our own country, why else would we put up with upscaled quality and basic ass frame rates lol. Coming from the UK, if the premier league offered NBC gold for uk customers I’d sign up in a heartbeat. But I’m not about to spend £70 a month to watch a handful of games but miss every single 3pm kick off

sure, if I actually had a legal option that gives me this much choice.

in canada, for example... tsn (one of our major sports networks) sells a $25/mo channel. ONE channel. tsn however has FIVE channels they sell on cable/satellite and often some events are not broadcasted on the one channel they sell.

so fuck that, for the price I'll take the tradeoff of the rare time something happens to a provider like vaders. I've saved so much money from using vaders for the past 1.5 years anyhow that it's worth it for me.

I don't live in the US so there is no legal way for me to get the legal services. Most require US credit cards or addresses.

Some services can be used with a smart DNS service.

HBO, Hulu TV, Fubo, Direct TV I have tried with varying success.

Direct TV won't even work on your phone if you deny location access. You need to spoof your GPS location on your phone.

DAZN only works using residential IP addresses so no way to watch using vpns or smart DNS.

I tried YouTube TV but it detected my location even spoofing GPS in the browser.

This is like saying I go now only to the local dinner cause it has waffles, eggs and apple pie, cause I only eat those 3 things.

IPTV is about global choice of channels at a low price with usual problems, its not a replacement for cable.

Good that you found out what you like, enjoy it.

You should use a combo of youtubetv and a regular sub.

my biggest issue with legit ones.. I can't get the channels I want. I don't live in Philly anymore and I want philly comcast channel. you can not get on any provider and only some if you live in philly. I been dealing with this for 15 years. I first started off with Slingbox until I found this. I don't mind buying the sport package MLB.tv etch. I just want to watch philly sport news. So that is why I picked iptv. Note I tried fubo.tv and it worked for about 6 months then they changed by ip instead of address Also very hard to find vpn for philly

Before trying IPTV, had given Sling & DTV Now a good go - could not go very long without the buffering/freezing altogether issues many others have reported - even with a very fast/stable fibre connection. Tried IPTV and few-to-no issues, plus considering I only use it for a handful of channels, it was the viable option. Would be happy to go back 'legit', but seems they don't yet have the infrastructure (understandably perhaps given the huge growth of online) to handle the traffic.

I intend to subscribe to YouTube TV this fall when football season comes back around. I will keep my IPTV for the odd fight, because it’s cheap. I’m a little peeved by the $10 price increase on YTTV. They had everything I wanted at $40. Now I have to pay $50 for extras I don’t need. I can’t miss football, so at $50 it’s still totally worth it for reliability and portability, but if it goes much further I’m back out.

Im using Xiptv/WSSpremium in Aus because we only have one cable network (Foxtel) and one iptv service (FetchTV) Ones expensive, one offers little channels, both force their box with crappy ui on it.

But mainly My wifes from indonesia and we want channels we just cant obtain legally, i.e Asian food channel, Discovery Asia

Sorry that you had such a poor experience, but happy that you've found a service that works for you.

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As the Start Here guide with this post warns: If you expect and want channels with 100% uptimes then IPTV is not for you. You are better off with Sling TV or PS Vue or something similar or sticking with your current cable or satellite service.

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I have had my share of crappy provider experiences, but I've been lucky to find some really solid ones. It's def not easy tho, so I hear yah.

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Cheers and thanks for at least trying :-)

So what comes with YouTube tv? Is there a decent movie selection too or is it your basic television?

OP I did the same as you, not sure if I’ll go back to IPTV.