Do you honestly think it makes financial sense to offer all the latest movies, and have a catalogue where you can search anything you want and watch it, for $15-20 a month? Have you run the numbers?

Why is no one doing this? Surely it would be the best package, and would easily steal subscribers from Netflix/Hulu/Amazon?

It's not greed that prevents this happening, the numbers just don't add up.

Feel free to pirate, that's fine. I do it myself. It's because I don't want to pay the market price for that service, that's all. Don't kid yourself into thinking you're entitled to have something cheaper, because you're not.

Netflix and Prime Video are more geared towards TV shows these days, because that's what a lot of people watch, as well. My fiance and I recently finished Titans, Umbrella Academy, and Bonding. We're currently watching Hanna on Prime, and I'll likely watch Lucifer S4 when I'm alone. For the amount of content I've consumed on Netflix, and the fact that prime video is free with a Prime subscription, it's totally worth.

Honestly, if you're interested in watching movies and netflix doesn't have a movie you want, you could always try "renting" it from Google Videos or whatever. They have a ton of new content. Yeah, if you're looking for all the movies that just came off of theater runs, sure, you're only going to find that on pirate sites. Honestly, though, when you consider that going out to a movie is $30 for 2 people, buying a BluRay / DVD is $30, etc, I'd say paying $5 to $10 to watch a movie once isn't all that bad. If you're looking to pay $10 a month and get every movie under the sun, instead of being able to just enjoy these services' extensive catalog of older movies and amazing TV shows, then I dunno... I think I want to hire you to paint my house for $10.

They call it subscription fatigue.

I like how you put steal in quotes, that's exactly what you're doing dipshit, don't try to justify it. I don't, and don't care, I accept it... but you're a douchey ass cunt for trying to come up with a justification.

For me, it's having international channels I wouldn't normally have available where I live. I also subscribe to Sling TV and Hulu for legitimate content.

I use iptv only to watch Premier league and UEFA competitions. UCL and Europa league. Nothing else. And because I live in Germany I can't legally by neither BT or Sky to be able to do so. Ok, I can buy Sky Germany but it's in German and I don't speak the language and I love pre match, match and post match commentary in language I do understand. English is not my first language but I still prefer it. There is a legal option in form of DAZN, just for sports but 1) it's in German, 2) Premier league games are often delayed cos of copyrights 3) to stream illegally. A ton of people in Germany have similar problem as I do and I really think that BT sport and Sky by not offering possibility for people to subscribe to "original content" just forcing people to go illegal way. And I do using a cheapest iptv possible, without epg, no ultra HD, just plain HD.

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And for movies. I have both Netflix and Amazon prime. Do I really need to tell you how shitty Netflix outside of US is?

The content market is massively stacked against the consumer. Massively.

Take sky sports. Many years ago, they started sky sports for about £30 per month with plenty of live EPL and sport from around the world. Great. I’m on board.

Then, they add other mainline sports like tennis, and move the odd football (the cash cow) match over to sky sport 2, which is available at extra cost. this is repeated until there are now about 6 or 7 channels, some of which are extra over your subscriptions. Still on board, but skeptical.

Then, BT sport want in on the action. They buy a ton over matches from the EPL, and so if you are a fan, you get to buy another sub from BT. They then do the same, and split their matches over 2 or 3 channels which require extra ££ to watch.

All the content is fucking riddled with ads at break and during the game (via Billboards etc)

So from a manageable 30 even 50 quid a month, your now shelling out closer to 150 month, maybe more, to cover your main sports in HD and multi room.

I stopped watching altogether years ago and instead go and watch local teams LIVE. Better beer, better fellowship, better humour.

I keep IPTV for the odd big game, cricket and rugby these days, and that’s it.

I keep a Spotify account, and Amazon Prime, both reasonably priced, because I’m not a total freeloader, but man, Mama Didn’t raise no fool.

Kind of agree with OP. Too many services all charging for 'their' catalogue. Just pushes people away.

Many years ago I used to do as the fella said - buy a DVD for a tenner on a Saturday then after watching it that night we would generally think 'What a load of shite that was'. That was a tenner, for one film, that wasn't even that good.

On top of that, there was the box-set thing ... we'd buy box-sets (30 or 40 quid) in the hope that they were worth the money - most weren't. More cash spunked.

On top of that, there was my subscription to satellite and Sports TV - got to around 100 quid a month for multi-room. Again, didn't watch it all the time and only watched the sport stuff at weekends. Value for money? Nah.

All in all we were paying 150 to 200 quid a month for tv/films. Most of which was shite.

So, many years ago I began looking around for alternatives.

Now I pay about a tenner a month (about the price of a new DVD or whatever) for an IPTV service and get all the sport I want whenever I want it.

I pay about 3 euros a month for a hosting service and can watch any film or tv series that I fancy any time I feel like it. And if I find out that I don't like the film or series then I just stop watching it as I don't feel I've 'invested' anything in it.

So around 13 quid a month for EVERYTHING I require v 200 quid ... no-brainer.

"Prime video is free with a Prime subscription" ... good one that. Prime costs 79 quid a month in UK ... not exactly free.

All that 'bigger picture' stuff is bollocks. These huge, billion-dollar, corporations have only one aim - to get the money out of your pocket and into theirs. Fuck them and their naked greed.

Piracy!

Amazon is a big abuser of this. I have "Prime" WHY are there so many things I CANT watch. And why is it so hard to show JUST what I can watch?

As a non American, I legally cannot buy half the stuff out there. I love boxing and espn+ is not available in my country. I could use my vpn but why should I have to use my VPN to use their content?

I have no moral reservations about using IPTV. Here in the US, as in many other countries, the TV networks and sports leagues have gotten greedy.

I’ve had the same “$69.99” internet and cable TV plan with Comcast for at least 6 years. But my actual bill is just over $100 because of things like the “Broadcast TV fee” - the same networks I can pick up for free with an antenna (CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox) charge cable companies millions of dollars to carry. So the cable company keeps increasing the fees they charge each of their dwindling number of subscribers to recoup this cost.

The US TV business model has got to change as more people (like me) say enough is enough. I’m canceling Comcast when my contract is up next month and going to a $39 Internet-only package with Verizon FIOS.

Buddy we all steal it cuz it's cheaper plane and simple, don't try and dress it up as anything else lol

18 minutes? Filthy casual. European broadband user here, getting 4 GB files down in only a few minutes depending on seeders :)

To be totally clear — I am paying for lots of content providers (Netflix, Amazon,...) and would pay a certain amount of money for content, but the whole ecosystem has gone insane. 1000 different channels, everyone producing their own content, everyone wanting 10-15€/$, fuck that.

The underlying issue is that I never even cared about IPTV. I don't watch much TV except for PBS, which, of all channels was designed to be accessible to everyone. I couldn't get it OTA. I couldn't get any OTA TV consistently. That wouldn't bother me so much, but I lived in East Hollywood. In the middle, pretty much, of where TV programming originates worldwide, and I couldn't get basic TV. I'm sure nobody else finds this amusing or ironic, but bending a pair of rabbit ears in 2019, in the shadow of 1,000,000 watts of OTA signal, is a grim joke.

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So, I heard about IPTV and gave it a shot. It's great. My OP picks up because my wife subscribes to Hulu, Netflix and Amazon Prime. I would always forget, and she'd remind me, why not check them instead of relying on a capricious stream, so we'd first check to see if it was on one of the paid services. Over the next two years, searching the services would always turn up more and more...nothing. "Titles related to...." I didn't know shit about IPTV until I read about it here, and it ended up being more stable than those services...or more consistent and accessible. That's when I realized we were paying about $350 a year for...reruns of Gunsmoke? My Fair Lady? Maybe some other people don't mind being nickel-dimed the shit out of, but it gets aggravating after a while, when you see for the same price, you're getting less and less, because you're being pushed to subscribe to more, for shit that used to be included. Obviously I'm exaggerating for effect. Kinda weird I have to point that out, I thought that part was obvious. I don't want anything for free, just product for a fair price.

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I just got back From Vegas. Don't even get me started on Resort Fees, Parking Fees and the scourge of 6-5 payouts for Blackjack.

You get what you pay for. I have Hulu Live and Netflix. Covers most of the sports+movies+shows out there.

An alternative to hunting around is to get a Plex share.

/r/plexshares for more info.

Free iptv m3u