How can you guys not do the math? You get all the channels you would normal pay in $100s for monthly (HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, EPIX, Sky, on top of a typical cable/satellite/etc package).

You get all the PPV's that run anywhere from $40-80 PER EVENT or coverage of something on DAZN ($10/month) something from ESPN+ ($5/month).

Yet even the most expensive providers of IPTV are what in the $15-20/month range, many more below $10/month. How is this so complicated to comprehend?

IPTV used in this sub is stealing cable and satellite content, there is no fucking "gray area" or "grey" for the Brits. None...IPTV sold in this manner is not legal content.

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NOW for you little slow brains that won't read the whole reply. I am well aware the end user will 99% of the time never see any legal recourse taken against them. It would be sellers and potentially resellers, but IPTV is not legal.

It doesn't matter if it "doesn't have VOD" or you are "not recording the content". It's illegal in Canada, It's illegal in the USA (and New England).

Just because you haven't "had any issues" doesn't mean something is legal...what a moronic belief.

Assume the mostly small risk as the end user / consumer of IPTV. But quit with the bullshit replies that it is legal or even remotely "gray".

I don't know Canadian law but I would be very surprised if it was I anyway legal just because you aren't recording it.

For an individual user in New England or Canada you could consider it to be very dark grey area...

Maybe a better way to view it is that as an end user you are very unlikely to be prosecuted but technically you could be. Doing 71 mph in a 70 mph limit is similarly not legal but you are very unlikely to be prosecuted, but you could be.

Use a VPN - I pay less than $30 a month for 2 different services. Get all the channels and more that I want. Yes, it's kind of 'not legal', but it's also not that 'illegal'.

My advice, don't pay for an extended plan. Only pay by the month. Utilize the 'free' week or whatever to try them out. I'm pretty happy with Xpedite TV and Streamsforus.net

It's like the 'warning' labels on cassette tapes. No one is coming after you

It's illegal in the UK. The ISPs actually block all streams. Way around it is VPN. I recommend for your buddy to invest in btc and pay with that and use vpn when viewing.

New England is in the U.S. and I believe it falls under the category of grey area as well. I stream iptv without vpn and have had no issues whatsoever. Since it's not p2p I don't think it gets the same attention from isp as torrenting, but iptv crackdowns in the US have been in the news recently, so not completely under the radar. Again it's in the streaming vs downloading grey area of copyright law in the states. I predict this to change soon and follow the UK's approach to stricter laws in regards to streaming. So even though as a user and not a provider, he probably won't face any issues, a vpn is recommended by many. Take what I say with a grain of salt as I am not a legal expert. Happy streaming

Grey area means it is illegal but it is hard to get caught if u use a vpn but if they really want to they could do a lot of legal damage. It is illegal to stream material own by the person holding the copy right. There is very little that isn't owned by someone. They mean "grey area" because if the owner wants to prosecute, they could but they really haven't yet, for the most part.

I wish people would actually ask a lawyer or do some research before answering a legal question, no one here are lawyers so don't believe them. They know it is illegal, they are just lying to themselves by saying grey area.

Some providers and resellers just want to make money but some actually try to do their best to protect their customers but the bottom line you may not go to jail but you "CAN" be sued and the bigger iptv gets, the more the possiblity of you getting caught rises. VPN helps a lot but a vpn helps even more

It's civil not criminal. Could you be sued? Yeah. Will you be? Maybe but maybe you also win the lottery. There's no possible way they can really target every end user, the most you'll get really is a warning.

Resellers the risk is higher but even so...look how many there are and targeting them really doesn't achieve anything other than instill a bit of fear. They could also argue they aren't actually providing any type of stream, only granting people access to a server that they don't run, so the liability is probably less. I'm no lawyer but if you think about it I doubt it's worth pursuing them.

Providers though and sources are at much greater risk. And there is a big incentive for Telecom companies to take them down.

That said, yeah it's illegal but no one is gonna get arrested over it. For all the talk of Bell going after people, Bell also wanted people to pay taxes for Netflix and Prime but be exempt for Crave which is their own service. They are complete scum, but they have way deeper pockets than anyone so if they do decide to pounce I'm sure a lot of services will be going underground.

What VPN is recommended

The only legal iptv are thise like netflix , prime , hulu ext..

For example my current sub is cloudspal , all there packages and invoices are marked like hosting so this way they stay on the safe side not making it clear they offer iptv ! Most iptv providers do this .

Anyways you can still use iptv the worst that could happen is your isp blocking the ip of your provider , you can always use vpn to avoid that

It's possible that Canadian law is similar to NZ where the Kim Dotcom case established that simply accessing copyrighted content isn't itself illegal, it's only the distribution that is. That's often what people talk about when they say "grey area" as simply watching IPTV won't result in criminal prosecution, but if you sell or resell services that's a different story. Of course there's nothing stopping content owners from pursuing civil action against people but that would be a massive undertaking.

https://www.technadu.com/canadian-illegal-set-top-box-judgment-5-million-settlement/63947/

All illegal obviously

as afar as I know its legal

lol

Edit: I had a feeling this was big time illegal

recording or not doesn't make it legal in Canada.

There are free legal IPTV streams that are available and legal in Canada. An example is the CBC Gem app, it has a free legal stream, and with a little bit of looking around, you can find the m3u8 stream address and create your own legal playlist. Like that, there are a bunch of free legal streams that are available.

The services that you are paying $10/month for 1000 channels, are not legal in Canada, and probably not legal in USA. (I have no idea about US legal issues) In Canada, there are rules and regulations about what is required to be offered in the basic package. Things like French Language, Education Channels, Canadian Content, etc. This is why in Canada we have HGTV Canada that has shows from Toronto (and other examples.)

You most likely won't get fined, however, you could lose your internet & other bundled services. You could lose whatever money you've paid when the service is cut off. Look at what happened with the Pirate Satellite activity from years ago. It will probably be the same.

Well for those in Canada, here you have it from a lawyer:

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/cp3ly7/iptv_in_canada/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

It's the same grey area like Canada. You aren't uploading content like in a torrent situation, but the ISP can throttle bandwidth if it wants to. I have no issue while using it here in NY.

i've had this conversation before, and here's where i go with it;
some euro countries legally allow end users pirate audio&video
they see it as dissemination of art and ideas.
other euro countries legally allow end users pirate audio&video
as long as it's not produced in that country.
many poor countries legally allow end users pirate audio&video
because their people can't afford them otherwise.
african & asian countries have laws on the books against piracy
but they are never enforced, thus ignored.
this is often due to the colonial powers that once wrote their laws.

USA laws were originally intended to protect creators for a limited
amount of time, so they could recover the costs and make some
modest profit after production. those USA laws were rewritten
thanks to corporate greed and influence in the law making process
that now extends copyrights and trademarks far beyond 14 years.

so the way i see it, big corporations have collected way beyond their
fair share of value in audio&video copyrights, so i'm simply going
to steal back the proportionate value that should have been free.

so now that i've addressed the "moral" issue, the practical matter is
you should take every reasonable step to maintain your privacy.
nothing you do will be perfect, just don't be the low hanging fruit.
I pay VPN, Anon Pay, and Bogus Register everything piracy related,
and if there's a service you like that requires any real life info,
fuck them - as there are plenty of their competitors that won't.