Bla,bla,bla... There are few platforms to use. It's just English speaking guys,can not tell the difference between A and B. And resellers trying to tell you,use only crypto,you are safe that way,BS, because it's better for reseller,this way they can fuck the clients.

Also let's be honest, the only reason IPTV has gotten by so far is it wasn't really on the priority list of the law, this recent bust will put a pep in their step, and there is clearly funding behind it from the companies having their shit pirated (Dish and Media Networks).

Many of the services are significantly lazy when it comes to any form of "masking" to dumb it down or security with regards to their servers.

It isn't very difficult to trace and track that a ton of the content / providers / servers are sitting within OVH, LeaseWeb, and NForce just to name some of the bigger ones. That's not conjecture or a lazy assumption, it's a fact from my own basic researching over the past months.

IPTV won't die, but it will start hitting more speed bumps as time goes by...

Directv killed the H card with the so called 'Logic Bomb' aka Black Sunday, phased out the HU Card for the P4/P5 cards which really never were broken, or worth the effort as around that time the shift was to more wide scale FTA.

Buy fta box, make sure dish is pointing at the correct satellites in the sky. Program that FTA box (locally at home with a serial cable and .bin file) and watch. FTA relied on Dish Network, Dish ultimately got it's shit together with Nagravision Encryption 2, then 3, so on to essentially kill "local" box based piracy. You then needed to get an internet capable FTA Box, and pay for or have access to an IKS (internet key sharing) service.

IPTV was the next gen after that, as it allowed/allows for less hardware essentially from the home user (you don't need a dish, and box/receiver anymore) you get more than just whatever all channels Dish offers. TV piracy has never really died, and won't die. Might become harder or take more effort from a consumer stand point as more forces against it join the fight, but it won't disappear.

how can we tell what uses XC and what doesn't.

Considering the amount of money being made, I'm not sure why they wouldn't just pay a developer to build their own custom panel at this point. Instead most (not all providers) just fell in the follower line and used a centralized software, and beyond that...one that if it failed, would freeze their business essentially.

Move to a different panel temporarily to keep business moving, and pay someone to code your own that you control.

If not, and they are going to repeat the same potential mistake process that has fleshed out recently...find the best software that isn't subscription or "credits" based, doesn't lock you out from doing shit.

Not really recommending any panel over another, but if Fasto, of which the developer is here...is free and no strings...use it and honestly see if you can offer some side money to see if he will implement the shit you want or need to get back to full operation software side wise.

I'm actually kinda glad this happened. It seems everyone and their cousin had their own IPTV service. It was hard to keep track of the good ones as the market was flooded with the likes of jurassicstreams, to Flamingo streams. I have empathy for Providers and users that will lose money in all this, but things were getting out of hand. Competition is great for the consumer but something needed to happen to swing the pendulum the other way.

using crypto won't save you as that can be traced as well. I think this is a good thing considering iptv will be obscure again.

You want your provider to be good and ownest,do not use crypto.

Good, experienced developers can be found quite cheaply, individually or in teams if you know where to look and I'm not talking about freelance portals either. Just a shame very few, if any providers chose to reinvest some of their profits in this way.

One thing as "industry" having a standard and one way different was having a centralized service as the backbone.

XC ended being the single point of failure.

I don't want to use crypto and I believe I am not the only one. If you live in the US or UK you maybe are able to get crypto with some easiness, the rest, is kind a pain in the you know what...

good post.

Whoever's idea was it to target Xc instead of going after the providers must have been a genius. Good thing is now we'll get rid of all these greedy resellers.

Good post BUT bottom line IPTV will always be available one way or another. The demand is far too great.

/u/sightstar Great post! I wrote the original summary of the press conference and you are spot on. For anyone who hasn't read about the press conference, that info is here and sheds a lot of light into the operation: https://www.reddit.com/r/IPTV/comments/d64e4p/summary_of_information_regarding_eurojust_raiding/

And a small correction: Italy are not acting alone. Italy saw that some of the IPTV provider team members were outside Italy so they contacted Europol and found out that other EU countries were already investigating those people. So Italy joined an ongoing operation already headed by other EU countries, in a group called EUROJUST (partners of Europol).

The EUROJUST group works on behalf of EU member countries... so there just needs to be ONE broadcasting company/copyright group/country anywhere in the EU that wants to continue the operation into phase 2, by issuing a copyright enforcement wish to EUROJUST...

That huge and powerful worldwide police group has the Xtream Codes server list, with its 5000+ providers, all of their admin/reseller accounts, IP logs, and all 50 million+ customer details and IPs. Think about that for a moment...

So I fully expect the European police to take down more than 90% of the listed IPTV providers. They are most likely getting all worldwide warrants ready (to send all hosting providers the lists of the thousands of IPs for servers they need to seize) - to seize them all at once in one devastating blow, to maximize the amount of data they seize (otherwise if they did it in a slow trickle, other providers would get spooked and destroy data before police can capture their servers too).

The EUROJUST team knows exactly what the XC list contains, and how the information within that list would easily allow them to take down almost every IPTV server in the world. It's kinda like they walked into a drug dealer (the Italian IPTV operator + Xtream Codes), busted him, and found a list of all other drug dealers in the world (the Xtream Codes master list). Would they shrug and say "meh we caught one drug dealer, we're done, we don't care that we have the information we need to arrest all other drug dealers in the whole world too, meh"... Or would they say "okay we need some quick EU permission to launch phase 2 and some EU warrants take down the rest"... What do you think?

So... let's assume they are not incompetent... That means that a mega-bust of almost all IPTV servers in the world is coming. Seriously, the horizon is not clear... and providers are still using their old servers and acting like "the panel" is the only worry they have. Haha. They are known by European-wide police now. The hellstorm is on its way. Every provider needs new server IPs (on new hosting providers with no traceable ties to their old one) as soon as possible.

Although a pain in the ass now, those iptv sellers who go again, will just learn and will not rely on one back end company.

Hopefully might make it more underground too as it was getting so popular, something like this was bound to happen.

This is the end
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The end

vaders was using their own version of xc